So far, so good. I have had the camera up and operational for about a week now and I am really happy with its features and performance. When I started researching what I wanted in a surveillance camera, the Netatmo had what I was looking for. I was interested in a camera that would not require me to re-wire my house and garage with power and CAT5 cable. The Netatmo replaces an existing light fixture and has wireless connectivity so that fit well. Also, I wanted a camera that would send its videos and photos to my own personal storage. The Netatmo allows you to send to your own personal FTP service or to a dropbox account you have so you dont have to pay additional monthly storage fees to a third party like so many other security camera providers. I also wanted a camera that had night vision and a flood light capability. Both of these are included with the Netatmo. So far, I have learned that the camera can distinguish between cars, animals and people and will send you notifications on which ones it sees. You can also tweak the area it scans and help it learn if it is misidentifying certain incidents for others. The installation was probably the only part I was not very pleased with. The mounting of the device is not very intuitive and it works better if you use wire nuts to attach the power cables to your house wiring rather than the tiny junction coupler that they include. At this point I dont have anything negative to say about the product or its operation. The video is very sharp and I have wonderful surveillance of the area in front of my house now. As a final note, I feel that this solution would not scale well if you wanted a system with many cameras. It works best if you have a need for only 1 or 2 cameras since I believe that each would operate independently.
This product is a great option for those that need a security camera/flood light offering. The fact that the competition wants you to pay a monthly fee seems insane as Presence has no monthly fee option (which is wonderful). The camera setup process was pretty straightforward, but for a handful of folks like me that had to install it on my roof 20 ft off the ground... upside down.... you need to hold onto those little screws with your life. The quality of the camera display when viewing through the app is about as good as it gets. I am very impressed with the picture quality. One negative of the camera lens though is that for being over 20 ft up in the air the angle view of 100 degrees is pretty limiting. I would expect you to have a lense that can toggle different modes to expand the viewing field. The app is designed pretty well, but it took some getting used to as several options are pretty buried. It would be nice if there was a Quick Button on the main screen of the app to toggle the floodlight on instead of having to go to a menu in the app to toggle the light on. Lastly, the detection of objects, cars, people, and animals is so far pretty accurate even at night.
To summarize and what it would have taken for 5 starts:
-Install should be a bit easier with navigating tiny screws as a handful of folks need to install these high off the ground
-The alan wrench did not perfectly fit in my screw hole (joking aside) which made it harder to tighten as the screw began to strip
-The angle of the lens should be configurable to widen if needed (think of GoPro's software fish bowl lense)
-Navigating the app to simply turn on the floodlight should not require more than one click/tap
-The ability to download a time lapse recording over 24 hours is nice, but it would be even better if we could have something closer to the raw data without the time lapse setting (full 24-hour footage to download)
I've tested a lot of camera systems including Nest Outdoor Cam, Presence iOS App, Reolink, and Ezviz and this is the only one that delivered on its promises.
We use it as a camera for our loading dock for alerts when trucks pull up. As such we needed bulletproof alerts. Nest alerts are terrible and I spent hours with them trying to figure out the problem. It would detect motion and make a note on the timeline, but I wouldn't get push notifications or emails. This is a widespread problem. Reolink spams alerts constantly as there's no way to give a timeout to eliminate duplicate alerts for ongoing motion. Ezviz has no motion alert ranges and constantly disconnects. The Presence app (a completely different setup than the Netatmo Presence) had PERFECT alerts, but it does not send images in the alerts and does not have a motion range. The software is also a bit clunky.
The Netatmo Presence wins for alerts hands-down. We can specify an area of concern and say on notify when vehicles show up. This eliminated false positives for when people walked by or cars far from our dock drove by. The notifications contain thumbnails and even sends those thumbnails to the Apple Watch.
Like some people are saying there is a small delay in the live stream and you can't view the video until it's done recording. There's no email alerts and the motion zones have to be rectangles instead of more complex shapes. These are minor grievances though, but enough to give it 4 stars instead of 5.
If you need an alert system this is it. If you need full surveillance you should absolutely not be looking at these all-in-one systems and should be getting a full system that does 24/7 recording. It'll be way cheaper and function much better.
Very happy with this purchase. I have installed it in my front yard to keep an eye on packages and people up to no good.
I see the delivery man every time and is very clear. The videos are complete, meaning they start before the motion happens and ends well after it stops.
Night vision and motion sensing are very accurate and have a long range.
Triggering recordings based on person, animal, vehicle, or other is brilliant. Zoom ins on video clips are a very nice touch as well.
First day I installed this in I got videos of somebody going through the neighborhood mailboxes in the middle of the night. Now we have something to give to the police! Good timing and a great product.
Oh and I have it integrated into my Home app for my Apple devices and that has been no problem at all. You will do most of your video related work in the native app but its nice to have a stream in your Home app when you looking thru your other things.
WiFi range and connectivity has not been an issue for me. My router is 1 floor higher and 3 rooms away and still connects well. When I checked my location with a phone it said 3 out of 4 bars. When I installed the camera it was 2 out of 4 bars. And that 2 of 4 bars works very fast for me. Having the memory locally on the camera is brilliant. Much appreciated.
Lastly, I bought 32GB extreme mini memory card which is meant for outdoor use and I bought dielectric grease. You will need these if you want to upgrade your memory, which I recommend. The grease is to prevent moisture from damaging the contacts of your memory card. Which Netatmo uses as well on the memory card they provide with the camera.
If I could give this camera 4.5 stars, I would.
In terms of monitoring, this camera is fantastic!! 5+ stars!! It was easy to set up alert zones, to monitor only specific areas. I live in an urban area, so this feature is essential for eliminating false alarms from cars and people at the periphery of the camera's zone.
Also wonderful -- the ease of setting up a sync with Dropbox.
Less great is installation, which I would only give 3 stars. I installed the camera myself -- replacing a deck light without a junction box. The big problem was getting the camera base flush to the wall -- which proved to be impossible given the combination of a plastic (rather than metal) base, the need to twist the base onto the wall mount and the small size of the base. I just couldn't get the wires into the right positions, no matter how many times I tried. I ended up caulking over a sizeable gap.
I suspect that Netatmo was trying to achieve too many things -- low price (hence plastic), one-person installation (twist-on approach) and low profile (small size of base). I'd vote for giving up on one or two of those things in order to make the installation tighter.
Feature Product
- PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY: receive instant alerts on your smartphone to let you know what is happening outside your home
- DETER UNWANTED VISITORS DAY AND NIGHT: the smart floodlight switches on when needed to deter unwanted visitors
- RECEIVE CUSTOM ALERTS: Presence distinguishes between people, cars and animals and will only provide updates on what you choose to monitor
- CHOOSE WHEN TO RECEIVE ALERTS: select the part of your garden and the events for which you wish to receive notifications
- ROUND-THE-CLOCK SECURITY: use the app to watch Full HD footage of what happens outside your home, 24/7.iOS 10 minimum required
- FREE VIDEO STORAGE: store your videos at no additional cost and stream them whenever you want
- EFFORTLESS TO INSTALL: simply install the Presence security camera in place of an outdoor light fixture or set it up wherever is best for you (entrance to your home, garden, etc.) Android 5.0 minimum required, available for the two latest versions of Chrome, Safari, Firefox, Internet Explorer.
Description
Have alerts sent directly to your smartphone when an intruder or vehicle enters your property
Unlike conventional cameras which notify you whenever they detect movement, Presence can distinguish between people, cars and animals. Presence will tell you if someone is loitering around your home, if a car enters your driveway or if animals are in the garden. Every home is unique. With Presence, you receive customised notifications that match your needs. You can choose to be alerted instantly when someone enters a zone you have selected. You can also choose not to receive alerts for animals. The Alert-Zones feature allows you to select specific areas for alerts if the camera detects a person, animal or car. Presence protects you day and night, thanks to its built-in smart floodlight. The light can be switched on manually in the app or set to come on when it detects a person, car or animal. It helps you find your way safely at night and deters any unwanted visitors. Simply install Presence in place of an outdoor light fixture or set it up wherever is best for you (entrance to you home, garden, etc.). In just a few minutes, you can install your very own sophisticated security system, complete with powerful floodlight. Your property is now protected against break-ins!
Specifications:
-Video sensor: 4 MP
-Full HD: up to 1920 x 1080
-Field of view: 100°
- LED floodlight: 12 W, variable brightness
- Infrared night vision, detection up to 15 m
-Local data storage: MicroSD (8 GB Class 10 card included)
- 100-240 V power supply
- Wi-Fi: 802.11 b/g/n (2.4 GHz)
I like NetAtmo products in general. This device works as advertised. Installation was straightforward. Setup had some hiccups but worked fine (hint: once connected to WiFi give it sometime to update to the latest firmware which solves many issues in older firmwares in case your device come with an older firmware). The detection seems to be accurate most of the time. The floodlight is bright and provides good lighting at night.
Works great. There is a noticeable delay in getting notifications (2-3 seconds) but I still find the notifications useful. There is also a noticeable lag on live video which I don't have with my dropcam. Wifi and internet speed can certainly impact notification speed and live streaming delay but I don't think that is the case here.
The thing that annoys me is that I can't click on a video that is currently being recorded. Most common scenario for me is I get a notification and want to watch the video that triggered the notification. Unfortunately it tells me it is still recording and I then I have to wait.
I am still going to keep my dropcam in a waterproof case but I'm going to stop paying for service. I can still use it to view live video and talk to people at the front door.
Works great. I like that I can set it to turn the light on only when it recognizes a person or car via the IR vision. Recognition accuracy is excellent. Video quality is good.
It is also very cool that you can set up an FTP server application on your PC (FileZilla Server in my case) and have the video stored to your local PC rather than paying a monthly service fee. Score one for NETATMO.
The appearance is obviously rather modern, and definitely is out of place on my Texas brick luxo-pad unfortunately.
However as some indicated, there is normally about a 10-15 second delay before presence indication is received on the phone app.
Good video, bright light, next I will test-drive in potential locations, good advice to check WiFi reception before hardwire installation, but I have learned about WiFi extenders/repeaters and to place them up high as possible (like a cell tower) to avoid all the metal appliances/drywall/electrical conduit interference. Just practicing prudence, not paranoia, hahahoho....
I was looking for a security camera with light but was uncomfortable with the subscription plans some manufacturers require as well as wired option which could be tampered with but mainly, in my case, difficult to install. I liked all that the Netatmo had to offer, connect to my WiFi and store past videos in my Dropbox - all good. Operation was easy once installed and it works as advertised.
My only complaint, and it did not affect my rating because it is now in the past (!), was installation. I had to hang my camera upside down and working with those little Allen screws to adjust the coverage was a “Royal” pain.
I like some other comments about different lens to broaden coverage options. On turning on the floodlight, I have found that working thru HomePod, I have that option which is great.
I like this product and strongly recommend it.
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